its a reality though :P

... That's a picture from the movie Splice.

yeah i know im saying that human-animal embryos are a reality not the picture :P and yeah trust me im hoping the real thing looks alot better than the picture here cause ....damn thats somewhat freaky shit

Well It'd take alot of mistrails and random luck. It's like taking half a human and half an animal in real life and fitting pieces together, it doesn't always come out right, even if blended smoothly together. Doesn't mean everything will be alright though o_O Especially in the reproduction area.

You know what's really be freaky? Mixing a human with mold =D

with ... mold .... ROFL that right there sounds like \"swamp thing\" XD

o___o wonder if that would be considered a elemental ? X3

Real Cow & Human genes mixed?!

Yikes. What's next Cow & Chicken (that would be a real "Cock & Bull" story).

Yes.., that was a pun.

Interesting, but it clearly says they don't let the cells develop and it's illegal to try to let them grow into a complex living organism. It's a step closer to being able to bang a sexy manwolf, though.

I don't know, the example pic they gave us wasn't very sexy.

If you look at the picture, you can clearly see that it was a photomanipulation that was obviously made unattractive for viewing purposes. Basically, they do not want a "sexy" picture to influence people. There are people who find cat-girls and alien Jedi sexy, but do not consider themselves a furry by any means. They do not want to influence people (although I believe that by making it ugly, they push the "abomination" angle).

I figured it wasn't real as it doesn't exist yet. I'm just saying, the example is ugly, and in reality, it would be ugly, too.

Possibly. Since it does not exist, we can not say for sure. It could contain some sort of animal magnetism that drives everyone completely nuts for some unknown reason (even though that is highly unlikely). Or they could all turn out to have Halle Berry sex appeal (which might be kinda creepy on the males).

I dont know, I could probably handle seeing something like that (..specially since I figure if there is life out there in the universe, chances are they will look weird, so im personally open to seeing something like that, though fur would be nice hehe)

Here is a good question, do you think that putting fur on that model would make it more attractive?

hmm.. you probably speaking to the wrong guy, im the guy that finds Frieza from DBZ attractive remember hehe O_o;

Well, he was, in his later forms. You do not have to be gay to find a male attractive. I am straight but I think Johnny Depp is attractive (if he were to ask me out I would say no without hesitation). Frieza and Cooler were both attractive, Cell was creepy, and would you find it attractive by just adding fur to it?

probably

Which is not necessarily a bad thing. I just thought it interesting that something could look ugly one way, but if fur is added to it, that could change it's overall appearance. I am not really referring to the picture for this statement though, I am just remembering what a few dogs look like without their fur. I have seen a few dogs shaved (due to mats, bugs, or other reasons) and their overall look can change dramatically by the addition (or in this case, removal) or fur.

Actually, I find shaved animals weird looking.

My point exactly.

its so true, like those cats without fur, they do look less appealing to me for some reason. like fur makes them seem cuter.

Maybe it has to do with the fact that we were raised to accept them with fur, and if they have none, we are to find them different and less appealing?

That probably is the reason behind it. But i justify my conformed beliefs by believing that these animals more than likely don't want to be sheaved.

If an animal has mats in their fur, it can cause some serious discomfort to them. Also, there are times that bugs may cause an issue as well. My sisters dog had some flies laying eggs under his skin because the fur was too long, they had to shave him and literally flush out the eggs. If I remember correctly, they removed about 40% of his mass which was all eggs. I know I am butchering that statement somewhere, but I do remember the 40% is accurate.

" they had to shave him and literally flush out the eggs. If I remember correctly, they removed about 40% of his mass which was all eggs."

D: THAT'S EWWWYY!!

But more on-topic, im with zen on this, with the cross breeding of animals and humans, there are many posabilitys, not only the creation of something smexy, but the creation of something far more advanced then ourselfs, wings perhaps? gills? maybe even both, the ability to breathe underwater, fly, and walk on land, without the need for machines of any sort,

The only objection id have to this would be religious, many will argue that this is 'playing god' and were god to actually exist, would we be royaly pissing him off by messing with his creation? However how do we know this for certain, god did create us this way yes, but was it ever said that his creation is not to be tampered with? From what i remember he left us alone to make our own decicions after the whole adam & eve bit, Perhaps the creation of a new species by his people would please him, maybe this is what he wanted, our race to advance and evolve(be it naturally or scientificly)

Think about it, if you created something, it was your own uniqe creation, and after watching it a while, you noticed it began to advance itself and scientificly evolve into something superior, would you be pissed off that it did this? Or completely amazred that something you created has come this far?

Theres some food for thought, lemme know what you think.

Frieza is such a bottom... but I think I went a little off topic.

If it had human feelings, it'll end up being segregated by the humans, and insulted, and I don't know if the hybrid would be able to handle it.

this was a v. good troll

Are you saying that my statement was a troll?

i would beg to differ... but i'm odd like that, i guess :)

Not the only one o.o;

Eh, who cares :P what WE want them to hurry up and do is work on a way to bio-print up some tails and soforth or to work on retroviruses. 'cuz otherwise, this won't help us get ourselves any furrier x3

Wow, that....thing kinda looks a bit creepy too, doesn't look like it was a real photo, if it works why not have one?

I see the catholic church is already rattling it's saber, as if an organisation that didn't accept the proposition that the earth orbited the sun until 1902 has ANY right to advise on scientific matters whatsoever.

Check out the new seven deadly sins that the Vatican has put forth, this is included with them.

*sniff sniff* i smell drama!

You do not smell anything, SILENCE!

lol

You mean the 7 social sins? They have no right or power to enforce them. One man cannot speak for God, nor two, nor a thousand. The only ones I agree with are the 'don't do drugs' or the one that says we have to sustain nature... The others are never going to be withheld at all, especially in China.

I agree, now tell that to the Vatican.

Unfortunately, it would be impossible to tell the Vatican to it's face, but it is possible to kill Pope Benedict, and send thousands of letters saying we will kill the next one too, and the next, and also writing that we can't speak to God, as there may be a small chance he may not exist.

The Vatican and the catholic church is insane and corrupt beyond belief. They waged the Holy Crusades, which in my opinion, does not make any sense as Allah means 'The One God'. Also, they have committed sins as well, go throw a small boy between two priests and watch them fight to the death, then the winner will fight Micheal Jackson.

Oh wow. Killing a pope.

Not that I really mean it, Just that I liked John Paul better.

Child molestation and hate crimes! That is what the church is about!

The Vatican, corrupt? What would give you that crazy idea? The fact that being too rich is one of their new sins and the Vatican is the wealthiest church in the world and refuses to share it with those who are in need?

WoW that's just wow.

It sounds interesting to say the least

Who'd want to be -- or create -- a creature with the intelligence of a human but without any human rights?

Let's have laws passed to guarantee the safety of real-life anthros *first*, then I might be in support of actually creating some!

HEAR HEAR.

Good to see somebody who can see further than \"OMGZ FURRIES I WANT ONE AS A PET\".

agreed.
I agree with both of you

Thank you.

Unfortunately that will never happen. People would not want them to be created, with or without the rights. If a crazy scientist were to make a few hundred "anthros" that are capable of reproducing, then our government will decide to protect them and come up with civil rights. However, the Vatican will take matters into their own hands, deeming themselves the "Acts of God" and so forth and try to "remove" the "sins."

To be completely honest? I think the vatican doesn't QUITE have enough power to actually follow through on genocide anymore. They're losing influence slowly day by day, and I couldn't be happier...

I am not a religious man myself, but I think the Vatican has far too much say already. They push themselves upon people more than Jehovah's Witnesses.

There's parts of the world where the Vatican don't even have power of the people, such as Sweden... due to the majority being part of a (rather liberal) Lutheran church.

The thought of Sweden becoming a safe-haven for furries kinda amuses me. But in the time that goes, politics might change alot...

*is proud to be Swedish*
I read somewhere that Sweden is also the country with the least religous population according to a procentage research that was made.

Of course they do. I'm just saying that their doing so is less effective today than it has been in the past.

Actually, I thought about this allot.

Just not for hybrids, but incase other smart species pop up. And I'm talking about "smart enough" to create a civilization. I believe some science fiction about robots handles this issue as well...

It's already happened, though not to 'creatures' the status of Africans in the U.S> was much like this back before the Civil War and, really, until the 1960's...

So a law that says 'anything that can breath and live has the same rights we do'?

Anything that breathes and lives and thinks like us would have to be given the same rights as us.

Thanks for the slight touch. But it doesn't have to think like us. They could be smarter!

Indeed -- then of course it'd be us who had to worry about our rights! Another reason to proceed with caution IMHO.

Yes, we always have to worry about our rights. How self centered of us! I think that's why so many people want to boycott this years Olympics.

that looks very interssting...
hope one day we can move in our animal form *purr loud* ^~°

lol illegal to keep it alive for over 2 weeks
thats stupid <.<

It may be stupid, but that is how every science experiment works in theory. They want to control the experiment, so they prevent it from getting out of control by destroying it before it can become a threat, of a sort.

Seeing how crude genetics is, the result probably would be some freak stillborn than a scary super hybrid of any kind.

I admit I view research such as this very intresting and little excitingly, but from medical point. :/ We're still at a rather crude stage of genetic engineering...

I did not know that there was a law against human animal cell admixture of any kind, let alone that they couldn't be allowed to live more than 14 days or be inplanted into any womb.

Fascinating!

Try to remember that there are different laws in different countries. No country can agree on one perfect set of laws.

yeah I know, I was just commenting on the fact that I had no idea any such law existed. hich kinda proves my own ignorance.

OH MY GOD thats creepy

Heh...this is not only old news, but these scientists don't seem to have read the same research that I have. Elsewhere in the world, scientific researchers have been performing a nearly identicle experiment under much more favorable conditions.

They've been using rabbit eggs, previously, to create what are technically human clones, which are only intended to be used for harvesting stem cells. The rabbit eggs are MUCH more viable for this experiment, as well, because according to the researchers, the only reason it works is because humans and rabbits have the same number of chromosomes (46)--cows have 60.

They even tried it on sheep because of the whole "women and sheep share the same anatomy" angle. It did not go as far and was dropped rather quickly.

Also...human/rabbit hybrid = the sexiest hybrid possible, IMO. <.<

I would have to go with cat or wolf, in my opinion.

We must get them to make an army of super sexy anthro-wolves :D

Death by sex or knot?

cool
its reall amazing what they are doing.
i hope that they will one day let one grow to a full child

The Vatican will never allow something like that, check their new seven deadly sins addition. The Vatican likes to think of themselves as "all powerful" without the corruption. I guess they never heard the expression, "absolute power corrupts absolutely."

I'm not going to try and start any religious arguments or anything but this is coming from the same pope and his followers that said all Christians were not true followers.

or should i say that they said any religion other than Catholicism was a false (or flawed can not remember which right now as it is rather late) religion

I am not going to start anything either (*points to icon*) but we can at least see where this is going.

So their way of think is "Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be"? They are idiots. As if anybody actually didn't commit every seven sins. They only put them in place because of the lack of people going into confession. That's what I heard.

Well as interesting as it is we will probably all be dead before we were able to be completely transformed and transformation would also probably have a high death risk.
However humans are paranoid and overprotective of themselves so they would never create another race that is superior to them because adding the claws and teeth etc. to the intelligience automatically makes it stronger since it'd be the equivalent of carrying a knife at all times.
Not to mention that pretty much ALL religions would start whining and crying about "only god should be able to do this" so I do believe we have nothing to get excited about unfortunately :/ However if I did have the chance I most certainly would mix myself with wolf genes :3 but alas I cannot

Would you be willing to deal with all the Hell that would be sure to follow?

Those who think you are an abomination, it would be a (more or less) repeat of what happened to the African-American population.
Would you be able to deal with all the "furry-wannabe's" who just want into your pants?

Personally, I think I could deal with it, but never having to have had to deal with it, I can not say for sure.

I am already a furry in heart and soul as much as I could be and I do realize the concequences however I would not be a "true fur" if I wasn't ready to take what comes with it so yes I would and it wouldn't matter because that is basically what I think of people who are that intolerant, they are abominations compared to understanding people.

Decently put.

1: that is not going to be accepted
2: (this might not be the right place but) that looks more alien than human or animal
3: I don't think that that being would exactly be accepted at a public place ....example: schools i mean it needs to be educated to see if it can hold the same brain power as a human otherwise the experiment would be a failure. Also if they decide to keep it from the public its going to live locked up for the rest of its life, once again totally defeating the object of the experiment (social behavior)
4: as whitewizard said religious groups all over the world are most likely already trying to "vanquish is abomination" (thats just what i think they would say)

Anyways enough armadillo rambling I don't think right now this is going to work maybe in like 10 or so years but not now :P

Fact: There will be at least 40 years before a furry can exist, genetics are still on their stoneage.

Fact: There will be furries someday

Fact: Humans will be not able to become something else, so we will never be furries :<

Now hug me :D

Actually, it's a lot more likely than you seem to think for adult humans to be able to be spliced--creating partially anthropomorphic beings. Moreover, this is almost certainly the ONLY means of creating such creatures.

As can be witnessed in strictly human offspring...a very slight difference in genetics almost always results in severe mental retardation. When are physically abnormal as a result of genetics--with the exception of vestigial additions--are generally very mentally deficient. By all logic, making a human embryo MORE genetically different with likely result in even more severe mental retardation. The fact is...if we created anthropomorphic creatures via embryo, the results would probably be something akin to animals in a human-esque body. That is to say they would be primitive, beastial creatures in their mental capacity.

However, we are currently in the very early stages of mapping out the human genes which create specific physical attributes. If we can completely map this information, we could, potentially, find ways to re-code our genetics in living cells. Through a series of treatments, it could be possible to slowly alter the genetics of targets cells according to specific demands. Obviously, the first strage would probably be fur, but adding this fur would probably be a slow process very similar to what it takes not to permanently remove body hair. They could, theoretically, alter the individual hair follicles over the entire body to grow fur to your liking. It would cost a lot, and it would probably take close to a year to complete the transformation from bare flesh to fur, but we already have the capacity to be covered 100% in hair. It would only require a very slight alteration to make the follcles make fur instead of hair. Contrary to common knowledge, every inch of the human body is covered in hair, but most of it is so short and fine you don't notice it.

In any case, the abillity to maintain the mental stature of human beings in an anthro is an obstacle that I doubt we would be able to overcome so easily. I think it would require greater technology to manage that than it would take to splice the genes of adult humans.

Sounds like a clever April Fool's joke to me. Or a spoof website done very well. I've seen them before >.> Any image can be Photoshopped.

it aint a joke. this things been goin around for a while now. i seen it on the news a month or two ago.

Well it's not a joke in that they've created hybrid embryos. They've not let them grow to anywhere near that stage of course. The photo is either a photoshop, or a statue.

I've seen statues very much like this one by some artist. They were all invariably designed to be as ugly as possible, and unclothed. This one is slightly less deformed and clothed, so it may not be the same artist. Could even be a really good photoshop I suppose, but it doesn't look like one to me.

oops. i misread. Of course teh pic is shooped :P
I meant the whole embryo etc etc thing was real
*facepalms self*

Did you even read the article? -_- That picture is a computer rendering. These were embryos that only lasted for 3 days. Please, people...don't leave comments on something if you didn't even bother to read it.

LOL if they make a hybrid it should be a armadillo + human = ultimate football player XD no padding needed :P

I was wondering how you were going to work armadillos into this. Not a bad idea though, "Really Rough Sports: Animal Addition," or something like that.

Armadillos for Football
Cheetahs for Track & Field
Lions & Tigers for Baseball

I could go on, but you get the idea.

Replace Cheetahs with Kenyans. ;)

I figured cheetahs because they can only run fast for a short distance, which would ultimately result in which one has the better stamina to run slightly longer.

I t was a joke I got from a Manergy \"commercial.\" I thought I just had to post it. XD Sorry about that.

You know what, I was thinking of a different animal when you said that. I was not thinking about Kenyans. I guess that is my cue to head off to bed now... 7:03 AM? When did that happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Zs3607vQs

Need i say more? *chuckles a bit*

Very interesting ^^

w3ird :P

Woot! My University :)

It is already illegal to culture human-animal embryos for more than 14 days, or to implant them in the womb of a woman or animal, and these prohibitions will remain in the new legislation.


Aww. No freaky cow-human-babies running around....

Thirsty?

Try new: HU-MILK!!!

:O!!!

Needs more desk toy merchandising.

OH YESH !

Us brits certainly know how to get down when it comes to anthros =D

I wonder if the lead scientist will steal a few and raise them as his own secret;y ^,,^

uh-oh, sounds like a movie =P

hehe indeed it does =D

i so hope one of them does >:3 its the beginning !!! lol i so seeing this \"being \" (for the lack of a better word) being invited to all the fur cons as the guest of honour :P

See, that's the thing. Once the nucleus of the cow eggs have been removed, there's little genetic material left. So what they're making isn't even really a human/animal hybid.

BTW, I hate Bush... He actually called them Human/Animal Hybrids in his State of The Union Address, and wanted to ban them. Bush banning furries... ^.^ LOL!

But, anyway, they just don't have the technology yet to really make a furry, and we're afraid of making an abomination if we try. We just don't know enough about genetics to predict how things will react, and what our thing is going to look like... I'm willing to bet money that fewer people would complain if they knew that one would turn out looking like a classic, textbook furry.

And, I'm willing to bed more money that if they knew they couldn't try to use them as super soldiers, that would make things better two...

Which is why I suggest we use some inane animal that isn't known for it's fighting skill... Like pandas... Or sloths...

But, anyway, great link!

Bush banning furs... I feel special!

You should! ^.^

Wow very interesting article. hehe, Maybe there is hope for fur in the future <_< hehe

I think they'll engineer intelligent animals long before they do anything like this.

Maybe, but we all know that humans are flawed.

But still, it begs attention.

I think articles like this are just scaremongering which panders to the fears of everyone out there against cloning and genetic engineering. The simple fact of the matter is that Britain is attempting to pioneer stem cell research for medical purposes, not to construct whatever the hell that stupid picture is.

Lol!

yesh - the dawn of furries is here ! soon they (and robots)
with overthrow their human oppressors * WEEEEEEE..


now - when can I get myslef magically metamorphosed ?

* bounces <^_^>

If they ever come through and create a new, intelligent species... I don't humans like you and me will have a lot of time left on Earth. Imagine, a being faster, more endurant, more agile, stronger and basically superior to you in every possible way. Oh, and it's as smart as you.

I smell genocide... D:

This isn't really anything new; making cytoplasmic hybrids is a technique that's been around for years. Using animal cells is a step that hasn't really been used before, but since the only genetic material that's left in the cells is the mitochondrial genomes, it's not really a human animal hybrid at all. At best it's a human-exogenous mitochondrial hybrid, which researchers have been using for years to study Alzheimer's disease. Organism development is an AMAZINGLY complicated process, and it isn't nearly understood yet. Primitive techniques like this are good for news articles and cell cultures, but that's probably about it.

HOLLY CRAP thats so awsome it looks so real and its kind of cute

Let's see how many people don't read the article, see the picture, and think, "OH MY GOD THEY'RE CREATING REAL LIFE FURRIES WHERE CAN I FIND THEM" :p

Except for scientific curiosity, WHY!!!

I'm waiting for it..My only problem is (this may sound cliche) But a possible racism between the two, humans and 'super furries', and a seperation between the two...an overreactive gene (hopefully not) And alot of possible murdering sprees...blames, framings, and some weapons become ineffective, and hopefully an avoidable war. Just call me something of a worry, but I like to think things through, though I am hoping that time will come alittle closer than '40 years'...

Yeah, it's important to remember here that the idea of true anthromorphs in real life would take incredible amounts of time in research and would have many unsavory attempts prior to.

I've heard that there's already been similar experimentation done elsewhere in the world and that while some positive side-effects were noticed, there was also a flood of negative... genetic manipulation of this magnitude would take a VERY long time to get right... and it's likely that because of moral and religious limitations, that it may never be done outside of total secrecy.

But we can dream, can't we

Personally, I think human stem-cell research is wrong. Religious reasons aside, there's also the human rights issue. A human zygote or embryo should have as much right to live as a person in a coma. Both have no conscious brain activity, but one is treated as less of a human because its cells don't number in the trillions. The person in a coma may return to consciousness, just as a zygote may develop into a fully conscious baby. Granted, people in comas may have the plug pulled if their families can't afford to keep them alive, but zygotes, embryos and fetuses don't need a machine to live, just their mothers' wombs.

On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with animal stem-cell research. If scientists want to manipulate animal genes so that they become smarter and/or more humanoid, I say let 'em. BUT, if the altered animal turns out to be sentient when it matures, then scientists shouldn't experiment on stem-cells with its DNA. They may continue tweaking more samples of the DNA that was altered to make the sentient animal, and if the new animal made from that sample isn't sentient, then further stem-cell research can be done on it.

Not trying to start a war here, but so many women have abortions anyway. Might as well let those life forms be used for good instead of forgotten

You know... even though I'm all for the furry art and stuff, I don't think I'd be too attracted to a real life anthro. I think the idea of anthros being for the most part fiction is what attracts me.

Also, on top of the whole thing of them not being accepted in society, they'd also have to deal with the crazy fun lot of us who have this whole ida that they're crazy sex fiends.

I'm not for the testing, because I don't think it's our right to play the act of God. (Sorry if it starts debate/flaming, that's just my personal belief.) They're currently creating life and destroying it. What happens if they get to the point where these experiments have human intelligence, yet it's not perfected? What if they can't fully get rid of the wild animal instincts? (I wouldn't want to see the someone who'd pick on an unstable wolverine hybrid.)

I'm not saying the idea would be cool. I just suppose you could say I'm a bit hesitant on the idea.

They're calling them "Cybrids"? Did we learn nothing from Earthsiege?!?!

That article is really interesting. I love seeing how science can manipulate things and such.

It's like a real life Patapon game lol

This work has been going on longer in the US, and human/sheep, human/mouse, and human/pig chimera animals have been born. If they are "too human", they are killed. It seems to me that being "too human" would be a good reason NOT to kill them, but I'm just a furry biologist and biotechnologist. (I wrote a little story about that under the picture.) See the links below the story below the picture here for the more advanced US research:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/495166/

Wow. Quite the interesting discussion going on here. This is not an easy subject to really talk about because of so much of the controversy and issues surrounding it. Ever since we got into genetics, people have said we've gone too far, that we're doing the job of God. While I agree that you should never be reckless with genetic engineering or you may end up with some kind of catastrophic thing like some kind of super virus. But the likeliness of such an even is probably still very minimal from an accident. Someone or some group creating a bioweapon on purpose though is much more serious. That's another thing though.

Creating true hybrids carries with it a huge weight. Frankly, most people just aren't ready to accept such a thing because most people have been brought up to think that such a thing is an abomination of nature. And yet, those same people love watching cartoons or CG films with anthropomorphic creatures in them. But perhaps it's the difference between reality and fiction.

It would be nice to be able to see such a thing. Or at least being able to use that technology to change our own cells to change our physiology to one degree or another. But religious belief has the largest influence in the world. The vatican is not the only one who would be against it. I would imagine, as a whole, the islamic faith would be violently against such. Unfortunately, all I hear lately from the extremists is 'convert or die'. At least most christians aren't going to burn you at the stake or kill you anymore. They may shun you and 'damn you to hell'. But at least most won't outright kill you.

Oy. That brings out a whole different debate though....Frankly, the Islamic faith is growing larger and larger all over the world, including Europe, which scares me a bit because there's a lot of the more extremist groups trying to gain more and more control out there so they can change the laws to conform to what they want. But I'm just annoyed at seeing all the political correctness 'everywhere'. It makes me want to smash my head on a wall for a while at times.

Oh well, enough of my ranting and raving about everything. Overall, it's a touchy subject. Science is always moving forward. Genetic engineering and research is growing at a very rapid pace. It can't all be regulated. So, in time, I'm sure we will see more about creating true hybrids. But it may be a difficult road to travel. Both before and after. It seems to be human nature to hate and fear what you do not understand. Most people really don't understand this subject very well, so they fear what it 'could' do even if it's not very likely. It's happened so very many times in the past, and it's inevitable to happen many more times in the future.

I'm not exactly enthused, since this is never going to affect me personally :P

all religion aside, This is just wrong, and this whole thing will come back to bite scientists (and the people who fund them) in the arse for being far too curious and trying to play God.

this kind of topic always interests me a ton, and as I understand it it is only illegal to mess around with the human genes, so why not just do that sort of thing in animals until we can get it right.... course what I would really want to see being developed (never gonna happen, but still) is some sort of retrovirus, or something of that sort that could work to change current humans into anthro forms. Hmmmm, maybe someday that is what I should work on, my teachers have always told me I should work in genetics, and I could easily change my college major.....hmm, maybe. well anyways, really interesting topic/article, and thanks for posting ^^

It's going to take a long time before they can successfully create a furry, maybe fifty to a hundred years, and at the same time, cryogenics will have finally made it's finishing touches, and by that time I'll be a brain in a glass of liquid nitrogen, waiting for some guys in white suits to grow me a new body.

I've already signed myself up for the cryogenics in Ontario. So if I die somehow, they rush me there, slice my brain out, and freeze me. You see, they can't stop us, as many people are already frozen, and shutting off the power is. technically, murder.

Maybe I should give them the details on how I want to look in the future...

Oh.....oh damn....

That's got to be an April fools posted at midnight.
I buy a magazine called Bizarre witch is banded in most countries for showing the darker, hidden side of reality with graphic pictures and speaking only of things that are true.(This magazines is not for the weak hearted or easily offended)
This month They have a section on ear pointing for the furry and eye tattooing for the Pratt*ouch*
The last few weeks a load of weird things have been reported by the Medea (Don't forget the April fools)
but until it's been printed in this magazine I'd take it with a pinch of salt.
They have already printed creatures that are crossbred, mutated, genetically advanced, or accidents of nature from around the world normally two or three months before the Medea.
While roomers of a human hybrid has been greatly discussed and many claims made nothing has been printed proof in this magazine yet.
Ill tell you in the next few weeks if the story has been printed.

Thank you Zen for sharing this.

i'm not going to say this is a bad thing...honestly if it was possible, i would shead this human flesh for fur in a second.....i'm just worried what the kids will have to live with....defects if any.....this isn't really a Fur friendly world yet

Well at least it has to do with medicine,.

I think when this is all said and done (i.e.- No more Catholic Church) we'll see animal traits for immunity and longevity implanted into the human genetic code while the rest is left to rot.

The media is making a real fuss over this. All they are doing is using the cow's egg. All genetic material within it has been remove. The "chimera" resulting will still be 99% human. It's just an excuse for the church to make a fuss. This research will bring REAL medical benefits. Sadly no anthros are likely. Genetics just doesn't work like that. :(

I don't think creating furries for us to play with is what they have in mind.

Even tho it says there thats illegal to implant on a human or animal body, human curiosity doesnt give a shit. And the army will probably have their money on that because of course, they want super soldiers.

Do as I say, not as I do. Does that ring a bell? More like a BELLTOWER CHAIN!

The super soldier thing is my take for the making of Anthros in my story, precisely because it would be done as soon as there's a chance. WHEN would the public learn about it is another matter entirely, of course

is this for real? cause if so, it's honestly amazing, yet a little scary just think of some of the possobllities that can come from this research

Who knows maybe in future furries could be REAL!!! That would be awesome!

I'd go through that...

I think that if such a thing actually happened that it would cause mass mania as well as just another part of the world contributing to Racism and the such for them being the way they are... Just that picture alone can give me a lot of people I know that would teat that person/ animal apart... It'd be cool and all... But it would open the world to that much more hysteria... If the world wasn't the world... Well... I would probably say I'm all in for the idea...

Well just because it's illegal doesn't mean SOMEONE won't try and do it anyway (if they haven't already). It's just a matter of time. This is quite interesting indeed...

Theres no animal DNA in the nuclei the only animal DNA is in the mitochondria. Over 99.9% Of the DNA is human so there little chance of this leading to human/animal clones ( no furries). The cow eggs are used instead of humans as they are easier to find.

Man! Missed Avon's post

Interesting, from my home city too, i knew stuff like medical research was bit at newcastle uni but never on this scale. Interesting though, just think, one day we could eliminate some of the most horrifying diseases through this.

Kinda reminds me of "Splicing" from Batman Beyond.

its neat... but is it for real? X3 if something like this happens... how do you think the world will react? will the expirament be mentally retarded? i hope they get it right. it bugs me to think about the scientist killing them just because they didnt come out right? u know?

I looked around the sight, and it looks pretty bogus. I mean sure, there might be some genetic mixing going on, but the possibility of a human sperm, and a cow's egg mixing their DNA is 0%. The alleles are different numbers, and the DNA chromosome #s are far different.

In short, the DNA can't mix durring conception of the 2 sex cells. It's impossible in all aspects. You can't make a human-cow baby any better than going to a farm and f*cking a cow in the field.

This sort of scientific breakthrough is incredible. o..o I wonder how long it will be before I can look forward to that sort of thing for public use. It'll probably be years before testing of this is complete. Its so exciting! :D

Fuck that.

They are working on addressing a law now? I thought they already passed a law, which was repealed allowing newcastle to do this? I mean, I know I heard months ago about them being given the go-ahead by the government.

Well ZEN, should this be true...its too late for us

It is sad...

Fascinating! Too bad it'll never be legal.
Furrywriter.

Never say never! It crushes my dreams of catgirls in mini-skirts running around!

OK! I won't! Heh, nice dream!
Furrywriter.

What can I say? I like cat-girls, and mini-skirts just make them that much better...well mini-skirts or nurse outfits...

You're an anime junkie aren't you?
Furrywriter.

Maybe just a little bit >.>

Hehe! Thought so!
Furrywriter.

I've always seen real life furries as something only a nuclear war could create... I mean, the radiations could fuck up with animals dnas (we humans are animals too after all) and create a symbiosis between man and animals...

seems a bit far fetched but it's what I believe.

"Why not meeee?!" - Dane Cook

Fascinating! I've been pondering the possibility of combining animal and human sex cells for quite awhile and seeing what turns out. It's a shame the church has once again stuck their noses in it, their opposition to anything scientific just makes Christians like me look bad

@_@!

I am more interested in cybernetic research than genetics, but it is neat. I think it is viable research to, as consider the possibilities if it ever comes to full term augmentation, such as giving us the lifespan of say hundred + year old turtles, or enhanced resistance to the elements.

the idea has been around a while to splice humans and animals to do jobs too dangerous for humans and complicated for robots. But still do you honestly think we would actually get Furries like the ones we draw? Furthermore other questions arise would they reproduce the same way humans do? Would they be able to carry diseases we can catch, if so how could this create a chance for bacterial and viral evolution that could create something awful for one or both parties. So many questions. Chances are a Furry like the ones we draw and write about would have to be built in a lab from the ground up until we perfected the technology to create a being that could live a full human lifespan without complications while still getting the outcome of a "furry". Frankly I don't see it happening but if it does woot!

For some reason this story reminds me of the human/animal hybrids sculptures from this artist:
http://www.patriciapiccinini.net/wearefamily/index.php?sec=yf&pg=01

Im am scared

Yay science *cue thunder and ligtning fx* just when you thought they couldnt attack that religion thing anymore.

Exactly why is everyone talking about religion when that article says the research is to replicated cells from persons with diseases so they can do experiments on the diseased cells in attempt to find a cure? Tell me, did anyone read it through?

well whatever the case may be, we'd be long dead before it was perfected if its genetic...

Morbo's Voice: THAT IS NOT HOW THIS FIELD OF SCIENCE WORKS!

Technically speaking, the cybrids are something like .001% cow. Un-technically speaking it's taking a cow egg and stuffing it full of ready to go human genetic information. The idea is to get human stem-cells without too much hassle and to test genetic diseases, also with less hassle.

PATHETIC HUMANS, TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHT OF MORBO!

Wow O.o
Iv heard about this before, didnt think much about it though...
If it works, itll be kindda cool, but kindda mean at the same time.
They'll be so different...
Not from this world.

That looks horrible

serious, if I saw that in real life I would jump out the window tearing my hair out while running down the street

Ye me too. That doesn't looks very atractive :-/

Interesting. I guess this goes along with the theory of grafting a tail or wings to your body and the theory that your body will actually integrate them into itself. The theory that the living tissue and nerves and muscles in the new pieces will eventually be accepted by the body and the nervous system and eventually work properly.

I hate to be a spoilsport, but what these people did will never lead to anthros. There's no mixing of DNA at all, just a complete human nucleus placed inside a cow's egg that has been emptied of cow DNA. Except for a few mitochondrial sequences, the admixed embryo is entirely human, and no variation on the same technique will make it any different. Anthros require a level of human genomic manipulation that is already illegal and currently far beyond our reach, as well as human cloning techniques (also illegal). Admixed embryos are big news in stem cell research, but they don't bring us any closer to real furries.

I think the picture would grow up to be a Kaminoan from Star Wars Episode II.

I find the idea of real antrhos running around scary.. and probably not for the reasons you think.

First, the antrho would always be in danger of the fanatics deciding to end its life...

Second, how would we treat them medically? Do we give them human meds, or animal? Will they get poisoned by something as simple as aspirin?
What about clothing? Education? Voting rights?
Would the fetus be able to survive in a human womb? Or animal?

There are just so many issues, and our society already has enough dealing with the problems of the ppl we have...

However, I would definitely like to see furries be able to change their appearance with a lot less risk than there is now..

One day it might be commonplace to get a tail attached...

Wow it's like The island of Dr. Moreau.... almost only that they kill their specimens after 14days... and start all over.

Hey isn't he sexy: http://fchan.us/src/m_1206834432695_furlicker.swf

*purrs*

can't stop watching that husky-butt shake ;P~

Anyways... uh yeah, that's very interesting topic Zen.

Scary if you where the grown one from the stuff they did, but overall interesting.

^^

Honestly, I heard about this years ago. Human-animal hybrids at the cellular level are nothing new, it's been going on for years. It's just that it has recently gained a wider public image, which unfortunatly causes backlashes from religious groups. Honestly I would be honored to be called 'Dr. Frankenstien'. He let nothing stop him from trying to better humanity. It was the public that sent things into a downward spiral. But I digress, It's doubtful that a person created useing the method they talk about would like anything but a normal human. That 0.1% they talk about is in the mitocondrial DNA, a very small portion which frankly does nothing beyond the cellular level. It would likely require spliceing of the necular DNA to effect the result's apperance.

Wow. Yeah I have heard that this reasearch has been goining on for a while. Nice to hear about the avances in reaseah and technology to actrully produce such a specimin. Unfortunatly every law holds back this reasearch for a varity of reasons. SO . we all hope that these british scientist and genologist are as smart as the American Oil companies who dont want to be taxed. MOVE TO AFRICA. then the reasearch can go forward with out impeading laws and tax so that MAYBE somtime in the next deccade or two we can finally see all of what we furs have longed for since who know how long Very intresting topic

Age of Anthros? Maybe, but that won't happen for a very, very long time.

Chances are, we'll all be dead before they make any progress in making actually furries. Trust me, the progression in this field of science is really slow. Our children's children may not even see a real anthros so it'll be longer then mer decades. Oh well, nice thought.

That's kinda freaky.

As much as it'd be cool to see anthros padding around the world, I think it'd be a terrible idea to create them in the first place. Think of how many would die before the process was perfected. What's more, I think hybrids like that would just end up being persecuted. Not worth the effort.

I knew it'd happen eventually.
If this is possible in embryos, it may be possible in already developed humans through some sort of virus.
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lol, South Park

I don't watch south park.

Is a bit weird, but really interesting o.o thanks for sharing it :3

That picture is misleading. Apparently cow eggs are used so stem cells can be harvested without wasting human eggs.

Keep dreaming furries.

Still waiting for my magazine but I did briefly hear two days ago on L.B.C. radio that they have given permission to Newcastle University to start tests, but I didnt get any details or hear anymore since.
(I admit I have not watched or read the news for a few months now)
If I hear any more Ill let you know.

thats some crazy shit right there o_O

This actually made me feel uneasy...