
So, these are the best looking of the new speech bubbles I've been trying out. I need opinions. Are they easy enough to read? Should they be lighter? Do they fit the atmosphere well?
Feeling things out, your opinions matter.
Don't comment on the text, if it's alright. We've tried a whole bunch of fonts, this is the most stylish we've found that's still easily readable, so I think we're sticking with it.
Feeling things out, your opinions matter.
Don't comment on the text, if it's alright. We've tried a whole bunch of fonts, this is the most stylish we've found that's still easily readable, so I think we're sticking with it.
Category Artwork (Digital) / General Furry Art
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I think they are great, though I would be curious to see what they look like without the black line around them, or with the black line at a different opacity, or even at a different color (maybe a shade of brown). It's just a little distracting to me since it stands out so distinctly.
Maybe if the black line was just a touch thinner, not much thicker than the lines in the font. Especially since there aren't really any thick outlines around the characters and so it draws some attention away from them. That would be my only suggestion.
Other than that, I think it's perfectly readable and perfectly gorgeous. :) Don't see too many comic artists using backgrounds in their bubbles, and this one is subtle, antique-looking, classy, and... good. (Ran out of adjectives.)
Other than that, I think it's perfectly readable and perfectly gorgeous. :) Don't see too many comic artists using backgrounds in their bubbles, and this one is subtle, antique-looking, classy, and... good. (Ran out of adjectives.)
Aside from the awesome artwork, my advice for the speech bubbles would be to put more effort in lining out the text to decently fit the bubble (or vice versa). Right now it seems like you made the bubble and slapped a bunch of text in there. Play around with font size to get a sentence in a bubble while still being readable and try to use as much of a bubble's space as possible. There's lot of empty space in them right now and to solve that I would actually make the bubbles and the text smaller, but that might be personal preference.
Another thing you might want to try with stylized speech bubbles like this is maybe lower to opacity of the text just a little bit so the text blends better with the style it's surrounded by.
Another thing you might want to try with stylized speech bubbles like this is maybe lower to opacity of the text just a little bit so the text blends better with the style it's surrounded by.
I would make the contour of the speech bubbles a lighter color, I think the pure black is overpowering when taken with the soft lineart and coloring of the characters, maybe a brown would work better? I like the parchment-like filling on the inside though, I think it works well!
I say they are fine just the way they are, the black border is needed, as it gives a clear definition to the bubble... the only place I see these having a little more trouble looking good is against a light background, dont know if that will be common or not, but against this kind of background, its a dead ringer!
I'd turn down the oppacity on the background in the bubbles, they're a bit too much, nice touch but they need to make the speechbubble more "white" and clear". It doesn't interrupt the reading much but it does serve as an annoyance in long terms, not in ways of getting tired or annoyed with them. But because it will ask more of the eye and make the person concentrate more. But if you just turned the oppacity down a bit it will be just fine.
I like the look of it, definitely, though I think now the text looks a bit insubstantial in comparison. Maybe use a slightly larger font so it fills more of the bubble?
Nice not to have plain white speech bubbles though, didn't realize how bland they looked until you tried this.
Nice not to have plain white speech bubbles though, didn't realize how bland they looked until you tried this.
I think this style of the speech bubble works quite well with the style of the story. I'm not much of a comic buff but I know that the style of the speech bubble can give an edge to the character who's speaking. If it's kind of old and yellowed like this, it makes me think of more serious and dramatic characters. But from the scenes I've seen so far, it fit well enough.
I find that shapes, colors, and textures can take the place of the volume, tonal quality, and emotion in a comic. If you can incorporate subtle visual characteristics in your speech bubbles you might be able to better describe the type of voice a character has as well as what their mood is. Squares are masculine, ovals feminine, pink colors can mean flirty, reds anger, fancy textures as ritzy talk, or a rusty weathered look for a more rustic character.
I think the brown colour of the speech bubbles blends extremely well with the background, artwork, theme, and atmosphere. You have a theme of soft, light colours going on here, a lot of brown and red, and the colour of the speech bubbles seems to coincide with that very, very well. It does make a liiiiittle bit harder for me to read, though. Now obviously, since it isn't white, this isn't the "standard" for speech bubbles, and I'm honestly far more used to reading white speech bubbles, but this is cool, too! It really comes down to if you want to be stylish and clever with your work here or if you want to stick to the standard. Either one works fine for me. :)
I think the color of the speech bubbles is good, but the black lining around them throws you a bit out of story, as your chars are not lined in ink.
Not really sure how else to explain it, and I think if you made them lighter it would put to much focus on them and not the full spectrum of your work and story.
Not really sure how else to explain it, and I think if you made them lighter it would put to much focus on them and not the full spectrum of your work and story.
I like everything about 'em except the font. The simple san-serif font you're using would work in a more modern comic, but a more medieval comic needs something a bit more "period" and handwritten. Handwritten lettering does a better job of the dialog seeming like it's the voice of a character (warmer, more passionate, more personal); typeset lettering sounds like the voice of the narrator (less expressive, drier, colder). That doesn't mean awful uncial fonts or impossible-to-read gothic fonts or (God help us) Comic Sans. If you make a change, make sure it's readable at the resolution you're publishing the pages at, some fancy fonts don't scale well.
A few suggestions that I think would look good in mixed-capitalization (i.e. not all-caps):
Stud Normal : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....nts/stud.0.zip
Augie : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....ts/augie.0.zip
Colophon DBZ : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....colophon.0.zip
Handwerk : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....handwerk.0.zip
These are a little looser than the "typeset" style of fonts, meaning they're wider per-letter. You might have to adjust your balloon size to make room; again, be careful that at the final rendered size they're looking good.
A few suggestions that I think would look good in mixed-capitalization (i.e. not all-caps):
Stud Normal : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....nts/stud.0.zip
Augie : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....ts/augie.0.zip
Colophon DBZ : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....colophon.0.zip
Handwerk : http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....handwerk.0.zip
These are a little looser than the "typeset" style of fonts, meaning they're wider per-letter. You might have to adjust your balloon size to make room; again, be careful that at the final rendered size they're looking good.
I throw in a few more, I think fit the timeframe/theme of the comic:
Kelmscott Regular: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....kelmscot.0.zip
Goudy Medieval: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....goudymed.0.zip
Bridgnorth: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....bridgnor.0.zip
And I have to agree with Beer, Arial is way too modern for this theme.
Kelmscott Regular: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....kelmscot.0.zip
Goudy Medieval: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....goudymed.0.zip
Bridgnorth: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/p.....bridgnor.0.zip
And I have to agree with Beer, Arial is way too modern for this theme.
I think a slightly wider light-center to the bubble would add to readability. Overall, I like how it adds to tone and presentation. The only other future concern I'd have is making sure there's no darker browns in there as it might blur into the black on certain words or situations.
They look OK, I'm agreeing with the outline that it should be thinner and I'd make the texturing just a -little- lighter, myself, to still keep the feel of it and overall shading not be as harsh white but not detracting from the readability of the text, it's right on the edge of starting to make it less readable for me.
I do like the antique paper look of the new bubbles, it's a great change. If you can rough the black lines with a filter so they look more "scratched on", that would further spiff them up. The smooth digital borders are out of place with everything else on the page. If they looked like they were drawn with charcoal, that would be best, I think. You can also experiment with actually hand drawing them instead of using a computer generated ellipse. If you'd like help finding a unique font that does not exist on anyone's default font list, I have about 10,000 at my disposal.
I actually like this better.
I was looking at how it looked without the black line, and I think the black line completes things. The more realistic track you are on makes the bubbles need to be toony, otherwise it looks too blended. I was almost going to say on the page without the black lines that the characters might look better if they had some lineart.
This fixes everything.
I was looking at how it looked without the black line, and I think the black line completes things. The more realistic track you are on makes the bubbles need to be toony, otherwise it looks too blended. I was almost going to say on the page without the black lines that the characters might look better if they had some lineart.
This fixes everything.
That fits in with the colored art SO much better than the flat white/light color you've been using. Very atmospheric. I'd say possibly experiment a little with the outline; if you were doing the bubbles in Illustrator I'd say use the pencil brush for the outline and see how that works out. It's not the strong black that's the problem, I think, so much as it's very "crisp digital art" over a very painterly style of art.
I made this really quick. Ideally they bubbles would be best made in Illustrator, but here's how I do it. :) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4901365/
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