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A lot of the initial design was thought up by Demi
Some more notes: When I have a specific chemical listed as their atmospheric composition, I don't mean that element or molecule strictly--it refers to a class of atmosphere that contains that element in some stable form. In this case, the "chlorine" atmosphere shared between the kya and the tryonn are roughly equivalent, but are likely something closer to chloramine rather than straight chlorine. Again, don't @ me, I'm not a chemist.
Also again all species in Hayven Celestia are open, you don't need to ask permission to make OCs or fanworks
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Some more notes: When I have a specific chemical listed as their atmospheric composition, I don't mean that element or molecule strictly--it refers to a class of atmosphere that contains that element in some stable form. In this case, the "chlorine" atmosphere shared between the kya and the tryonn are roughly equivalent, but are likely something closer to chloramine rather than straight chlorine. Again, don't @ me, I'm not a chemist.
Also again all species in Hayven Celestia are open, you don't need to ask permission to make OCs or fanworks
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A personal counter gravity field would probably help, either lessen or completely neutralize local gravity beyond what is necessary for movement, similar to the Dune universe's Holtzman Suspensors. I'm not sure if the gravity generation tech in Hayven Celestia is miniaturized enough to make that work, though.
That, or giant mobile fish tanks.
That, or giant mobile fish tanks.
Crocodilians are probably the best species for this analogy. Land does have utility for them for laying eggs and traveling between bodies of water, but most other business is done in water. But I get OP in that occasionally needing to be on land doesn't make the super optimized bipedal structure that realistic, but I personally like the concept of a species having a set amount of time to spend on land enough to ignore the slight weirdness lol
Well first when I name an element for these species, I don't mean chlorine gas specifically. I'm not a chemistry expert so you can substitute that for "some kind of chlorine-based gas that is atmosphere-and-oxygen-stable" and generally in small but significant amounts. How does the metabolism work with it? I don't know. I'm not a biologist. I just know that oxygen itself is, in a way, corrosive, so it makes sense that other corrosive chemicals may be chemically useful in different evolutionary processes. It makes less sense to me to name a noble gas because they're non-reactive in most circumstances.
And in the stories, they generally can't operate in the same environments as species who breathe other atmospheres. There's ways around this--cybernetics, or masks/rebreathers, but that's one of the things about their situation is that not all species can live in all others' atmospheres.
And in the stories, they generally can't operate in the same environments as species who breathe other atmospheres. There's ways around this--cybernetics, or masks/rebreathers, but that's one of the things about their situation is that not all species can live in all others' atmospheres.
I find it interesting that you'd mention that, considering that on the atmosphere comparability chart Tryonn are labled as "Temporarily Survivable" for oxygen atmospheres, a classification which they share with Georidans with regards to oxygenated atmospheres, and Geordians appear to be able to breath oxygen as evident by them being maskless with Geroo in these two images (https://e621.net/posts/5176206 and https://e621.net/posts/2636196); as well as by their ref sheet which mentions their atmosphere mix has 1.5% ammonia and 19% oxygen, strongly suggesting they use the oxygen for respiration not the ammonia.
This leads me to think Tryonn dont use Chlorine for cellular respiration, but rather use oxygen and they need chlorine/chlorides because they're body chemistry developed with those gases present and thus would have problems without them.
I also have a suspicion that this is the same for many other species, as oxygen is present in the atmospheres of every species you provide an atmosphere breakdown of, and Sourang are able to adjust their bodies to a given atmosphere indicating they likely consume a base gas and then modify their body to process/reject the other foreign gasses.
Basically, species use oxygen for respiration, but then have some other gasses that are needed because the species developed with said gas and thus their body chemistry is tuned to need the given gas.
I would like to note this approach is somewhat useful for writting. It reduces the work on your end with regards to figuring out biochemistry as rather than figuring out how bromides or chlorides or flourides could work in place of oxygen in individuals and the biosphere as a whole, you could write that a species breathes oxygen but just needs x gas.
For example Geordians and Cosa both need high blood ammonia levels and have high blood ph as a consequence of their atmospheres containing ammonia. Without ammonia to breath, they would eventually die due to their blood ph falling too low, but the half life of the ammonia in their blood is long enough or their healthy blood ph range is wide enough they can breath without it for periods of time.
This leads me to think Tryonn dont use Chlorine for cellular respiration, but rather use oxygen and they need chlorine/chlorides because they're body chemistry developed with those gases present and thus would have problems without them.
I also have a suspicion that this is the same for many other species, as oxygen is present in the atmospheres of every species you provide an atmosphere breakdown of, and Sourang are able to adjust their bodies to a given atmosphere indicating they likely consume a base gas and then modify their body to process/reject the other foreign gasses.
Basically, species use oxygen for respiration, but then have some other gasses that are needed because the species developed with said gas and thus their body chemistry is tuned to need the given gas.
I would like to note this approach is somewhat useful for writting. It reduces the work on your end with regards to figuring out biochemistry as rather than figuring out how bromides or chlorides or flourides could work in place of oxygen in individuals and the biosphere as a whole, you could write that a species breathes oxygen but just needs x gas.
For example Geordians and Cosa both need high blood ammonia levels and have high blood ph as a consequence of their atmospheres containing ammonia. Without ammonia to breath, they would eventually die due to their blood ph falling too low, but the half life of the ammonia in their blood is long enough or their healthy blood ph range is wide enough they can breath without it for periods of time.
I wonder if any Tyronn's suppress or halt their growth to stay on land.
That would actually be an interesting idea, groups of Tyronns who halt their growth and thus can not only work on land but potentially travel beyond their home world, exploring space and potentially living among other species because they wont ever have to worry about growing too big.
I could imagine a social division emerging between Tyronn who endlessly grow and those with locked sizes, a division both due to clashing approaches to handle their biology and due to them physically occupying different enviroments.
That would actually be an interesting idea, groups of Tyronns who halt their growth and thus can not only work on land but potentially travel beyond their home world, exploring space and potentially living among other species because they wont ever have to worry about growing too big.
I could imagine a social division emerging between Tyronn who endlessly grow and those with locked sizes, a division both due to clashing approaches to handle their biology and due to them physically occupying different enviroments.
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