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3 years ago
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A few days ago I had sort of an argument with user Poisonakataz about one of my pictures https://www.furaffinity.net/view/52.....cid:173241796. Well probably many of my pictures! At first not too long after posting that picture I got a comment from Ella_the_Fox saying "what." I ignored it at first and then checked her profile and there's almost nothing on there. I saw that she only made one comment and that was on my picture. Then I decided to ask her what that "what" was for. She didn't answer. I'm hoping that's not a troll or spam account and I hope she didn't make that account just to leave a bad comment on my picture! But I cannot claim anything about her!
Then Poisonakataz takes it upon himself, well, itself since that's the pronoun it wants to be referred to as, to answer my question even though I didn't ask it. It told me "they mean, 'why are you drawing child characters urinating? that's extremely creepy'". I had a feeling this was going to happen sooner or later, I just didn't know when, but I had a feeling someone would directly call me out right on my FA account for drawing cartoon characters urinating, more specifically kid cartoon characters! I did try to tell it what I tell everyone, 'they show that in some kid's cartoons' and that I didn't put anything inappropriate in the picture (genitals, sexual acts.) But Poisonakataz goes on to say that it found it disturbing that I had to clarify that the character's private parts weren't showing and that he wasn't doing anything sexual. It then asks me how do I not find it creepy to focus on drawing kids urinating and going on to ask me if I don't think people are going to think I have an obsession with watching kids going to the bathroom.
I answered that I only draw CARTOON characters going to the bathroom, not real children and also told it that I would draw adult characters doing so too, even telling it about the pictures I did of the Trix Rabbit and of the We Bare Bears characters, neither of whom are kids! I said a lot more things to it and probably said more than I should have said, probably gave too much information and I probably offended that person, and possibly others reading those comments! But I told Poisonakataz how I really felt about certain situations and more.
Then Posionakataz reveals it's a transgender male and informs me it doesn't have a "traditional penis" and then has the nerve to tell me "F*** you!" Also tries to tell me that people will judge me by my actions, not my intentions, which I didn't agree with at first but now I see maybe that person is right, though I do believe you can be judged for your intentions. Did I have bad intentions? No! Were my actions bad? I would hope not!
Anyway I got fed up with Poisonakataz and I was upset with how he talked to me and told him not to talk to me anymore, not because he was a transsexual but because he was mean and rude. Those weren't exactly the words I wanted to use but I couldn't come up with anything else and didn't want to be that mean to it so I just went with those. I then told it to stay out of my gallery and decided to block the person! And I tried to be nice to it too, even telling it that I was not the kind of person to say "F*** off" or "F*** you" and did try to warn him that if he tried to confront anyone else they'd be mean to him and that not everyone is as nice as I am. But despite my being nice to it, it still cursed me out! Unfortunately it bes that way sometimes (Joe Simon reference,) sometimes no matter how nice you are or try to be to someone they are still mean to you and I did try to be assertive.
Now I'm wondering if maybe I was a little too hard on Poisonakataz and am feeling some regret that I blocked it. That's not all I'm regretting. Like I said, maybe I gave too much information about my thoughts and feelings about male people. I mean that's how I really feel but I didn't know I was going to sound offensive, including to trans people!
Now before you come to any conclusions about me, I AM NOT A TRANSPHOBE or a homophobe! I respect the LGBTQ community and respect everyone's right to live how they want even if I don't agree with it or support it. In other words, I don't care if Poisonakataz is a transgender person, I don't care what sexuality the rest of you are either, I'm not prejudiced, and if I am I'm working on trying to stop being so. And I understand not all males have penises as much as that disturbs me, but there's nothing I can do about that and I don't want to be discriminant against such people whether they're transgender people or there's another reason why some males lack that part. And this is not my world or universe, I didn't create it and I don't make the rules or set the standards! I'm even aware some cartoon characters don't have that part and in all reality, so what if they don't? Why does that affect me and why should it?
I don't really know Poisonakataz but I'm wondering if I was right or wrong to block that user. Did I overreact? Could I have handled that better? I mean I don't intend to be friends with him but I don't want to be disrespectful to him either or to anyone else. And I am seeing its point about drawing children going to the bathroom and how that seems to be my focus. I cannot say it (Poisonakataz) is not right, I have been drawing a lot of pictures of young boys going to the bathroom but again only cartoon boys, and I have been meaning to draw adult male cartoon characters going to the bathroom too, I just never got around to it or felt like it and I don't know when I will but I should try to do that more! I cannot have people thinking I'm a pedophile, much less a gay pedophile! And if Poisonakataz didn't say it, somebody else would have. Lots of people find my artwork objectionable and many don't care what my reasons for the artwork are and I know lots of people want me to stop making that kind of artwork even though some are nice about it. I mean not everyone is picking on me and I know some people are only looking out for my best interests and I appreciate that. And I do need to be careful how I view other people and other creatures even if they are just cartoon characters.
I may not do my artwork to intentionally offend anyone and that's really not my intent, but whether I'm trying to do so or not, some people are still going to get offended by my art, and I can understand too. And I see how Poisonakataz can ask me how I don't find it creepy to draw little kids going to the bathroom. I couldn't understand how some people didn't find it creepy that Cosmo, a male fairy, got pregnant instead of his wife Wanda, who is female. And some people even said to me "I don't get the hate of male fairy pregnancy" or something like that! I didn't get how they didn't get it either.
Whether Poisonakataz was being a troll or not, Ella_the_fox too, I cannot say and I refuse to accuse people of things they're not, I try to be a fair person and I try to respect other people's opinions even if they are in stark contrast with mine. Still, maybe I shouldn't have blocked that user, maybe I should have just ignored that user and said nothing to it at all. I mean it did cuss me out and that was not cool, but maybe blocking that user was excessive and unnecessary! And some people have said that I block people who call me out, even rightly so, and no I don't like hearing things I don't want to hear but I don't block everyone who calls me out, I know some of those people are right. It's the people who are rude to me and those who really are bullies I block. I might unblock the user and have us just not say anything to each other. And I know more people are going to confront me about my artwork, some might even threaten me! I honestly don't want to stop making the art I make, but then again, I do need to be considerate of other people and not think just about myself, plus I don't need to draw every male cartoon character going to the bathroom, in fact I shouldn't and I don't really want to! No I can't please everyone even if I try, and I don't need to be friends with everyone in this world, nor in fact can I be, but I do need to be considerate of other people's feelings and to respect everybody! I also need to be careful what I say to others even if I am being honest!
And there are some cartoon characters I don't want to see at all or anymore anyway even if they were shown urinating standing up!
By the way please don't confront Poisonakataz or Ella_the_fox on my behalf, that won't be necessary and won't solve anything! I don't want to make things worse. Even if you are their enemies or simply don't like them, please still don't call them out, just let them be!
Anything from you guys, provided you're nice or at least assertive to me?
Then Poisonakataz takes it upon himself, well, itself since that's the pronoun it wants to be referred to as, to answer my question even though I didn't ask it. It told me "they mean, 'why are you drawing child characters urinating? that's extremely creepy'". I had a feeling this was going to happen sooner or later, I just didn't know when, but I had a feeling someone would directly call me out right on my FA account for drawing cartoon characters urinating, more specifically kid cartoon characters! I did try to tell it what I tell everyone, 'they show that in some kid's cartoons' and that I didn't put anything inappropriate in the picture (genitals, sexual acts.) But Poisonakataz goes on to say that it found it disturbing that I had to clarify that the character's private parts weren't showing and that he wasn't doing anything sexual. It then asks me how do I not find it creepy to focus on drawing kids urinating and going on to ask me if I don't think people are going to think I have an obsession with watching kids going to the bathroom.
I answered that I only draw CARTOON characters going to the bathroom, not real children and also told it that I would draw adult characters doing so too, even telling it about the pictures I did of the Trix Rabbit and of the We Bare Bears characters, neither of whom are kids! I said a lot more things to it and probably said more than I should have said, probably gave too much information and I probably offended that person, and possibly others reading those comments! But I told Poisonakataz how I really felt about certain situations and more.
Then Posionakataz reveals it's a transgender male and informs me it doesn't have a "traditional penis" and then has the nerve to tell me "F*** you!" Also tries to tell me that people will judge me by my actions, not my intentions, which I didn't agree with at first but now I see maybe that person is right, though I do believe you can be judged for your intentions. Did I have bad intentions? No! Were my actions bad? I would hope not!
Anyway I got fed up with Poisonakataz and I was upset with how he talked to me and told him not to talk to me anymore, not because he was a transsexual but because he was mean and rude. Those weren't exactly the words I wanted to use but I couldn't come up with anything else and didn't want to be that mean to it so I just went with those. I then told it to stay out of my gallery and decided to block the person! And I tried to be nice to it too, even telling it that I was not the kind of person to say "F*** off" or "F*** you" and did try to warn him that if he tried to confront anyone else they'd be mean to him and that not everyone is as nice as I am. But despite my being nice to it, it still cursed me out! Unfortunately it bes that way sometimes (Joe Simon reference,) sometimes no matter how nice you are or try to be to someone they are still mean to you and I did try to be assertive.
Now I'm wondering if maybe I was a little too hard on Poisonakataz and am feeling some regret that I blocked it. That's not all I'm regretting. Like I said, maybe I gave too much information about my thoughts and feelings about male people. I mean that's how I really feel but I didn't know I was going to sound offensive, including to trans people!
Now before you come to any conclusions about me, I AM NOT A TRANSPHOBE or a homophobe! I respect the LGBTQ community and respect everyone's right to live how they want even if I don't agree with it or support it. In other words, I don't care if Poisonakataz is a transgender person, I don't care what sexuality the rest of you are either, I'm not prejudiced, and if I am I'm working on trying to stop being so. And I understand not all males have penises as much as that disturbs me, but there's nothing I can do about that and I don't want to be discriminant against such people whether they're transgender people or there's another reason why some males lack that part. And this is not my world or universe, I didn't create it and I don't make the rules or set the standards! I'm even aware some cartoon characters don't have that part and in all reality, so what if they don't? Why does that affect me and why should it?
I don't really know Poisonakataz but I'm wondering if I was right or wrong to block that user. Did I overreact? Could I have handled that better? I mean I don't intend to be friends with him but I don't want to be disrespectful to him either or to anyone else. And I am seeing its point about drawing children going to the bathroom and how that seems to be my focus. I cannot say it (Poisonakataz) is not right, I have been drawing a lot of pictures of young boys going to the bathroom but again only cartoon boys, and I have been meaning to draw adult male cartoon characters going to the bathroom too, I just never got around to it or felt like it and I don't know when I will but I should try to do that more! I cannot have people thinking I'm a pedophile, much less a gay pedophile! And if Poisonakataz didn't say it, somebody else would have. Lots of people find my artwork objectionable and many don't care what my reasons for the artwork are and I know lots of people want me to stop making that kind of artwork even though some are nice about it. I mean not everyone is picking on me and I know some people are only looking out for my best interests and I appreciate that. And I do need to be careful how I view other people and other creatures even if they are just cartoon characters.
I may not do my artwork to intentionally offend anyone and that's really not my intent, but whether I'm trying to do so or not, some people are still going to get offended by my art, and I can understand too. And I see how Poisonakataz can ask me how I don't find it creepy to draw little kids going to the bathroom. I couldn't understand how some people didn't find it creepy that Cosmo, a male fairy, got pregnant instead of his wife Wanda, who is female. And some people even said to me "I don't get the hate of male fairy pregnancy" or something like that! I didn't get how they didn't get it either.
Whether Poisonakataz was being a troll or not, Ella_the_fox too, I cannot say and I refuse to accuse people of things they're not, I try to be a fair person and I try to respect other people's opinions even if they are in stark contrast with mine. Still, maybe I shouldn't have blocked that user, maybe I should have just ignored that user and said nothing to it at all. I mean it did cuss me out and that was not cool, but maybe blocking that user was excessive and unnecessary! And some people have said that I block people who call me out, even rightly so, and no I don't like hearing things I don't want to hear but I don't block everyone who calls me out, I know some of those people are right. It's the people who are rude to me and those who really are bullies I block. I might unblock the user and have us just not say anything to each other. And I know more people are going to confront me about my artwork, some might even threaten me! I honestly don't want to stop making the art I make, but then again, I do need to be considerate of other people and not think just about myself, plus I don't need to draw every male cartoon character going to the bathroom, in fact I shouldn't and I don't really want to! No I can't please everyone even if I try, and I don't need to be friends with everyone in this world, nor in fact can I be, but I do need to be considerate of other people's feelings and to respect everybody! I also need to be careful what I say to others even if I am being honest!
And there are some cartoon characters I don't want to see at all or anymore anyway even if they were shown urinating standing up!
By the way please don't confront Poisonakataz or Ella_the_fox on my behalf, that won't be necessary and won't solve anything! I don't want to make things worse. Even if you are their enemies or simply don't like them, please still don't call them out, just let them be!
Anything from you guys, provided you're nice or at least assertive to me?
Ideally, you probably shouldn't have even replied to the initial "What" comment. When you get comments that seem rude, take a look at their page. If you see zero, or near zero activity, and they just joined the site, it's 99 percent likely that it's a troll. They create accounts simply to leave offensive comment, and often never intend to use the account again. Then, if someone takes their bait, they sign in with another account, or get a friend, and things escalate from there.
If you ignore the trolls, and don't react to them at all, they can never be sure that you've even seen their message, or know that they've bothered you. A troll that doesn't see any feedback, might try again, but usually gives up after a couple attempts, when they can't even be sure they've been noticed. They just move on the another target that they can get an easier reaction out of.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the art you've been posting. It looks innocent and totally free of sexual context to me. The troll obviously considers peeing to be sexual, but that just indicates where there own mind is. I never sensed anything sexual when looking at your art, but that's where the troll's mind is. Seriously, when people assume insane connections like that, where none are even implied, it's best to ignore them. If they start making rude assumptions about your own submissions, often to start trouble, there's nothing wrong with blocking them.
If you look at the work places of a third of the US, you'll likely find a Calvin & Hobbs cartoon sticker showing Calvin pissing on something, or some other type of naughty office humor content. Calvin is a kid character too, but literally almost everyone in the country knows that peeing or wetting isn't normally considered to be sexual. Certainly, if you drew characters peeing inside each other, or touching each other's private parts, or had dialog suggesting sexual arousal, then it would become more than just using the restroom. Butt, the art you're drawing looks 100 percent innocent to me.
Even though your art looks innocent to me, I'd still suggest making a parallel copy of all of your art to at least one or two additional sites. We are in a world where some people are trying really hard to get everything they don't personally like removed from existence, no matter how innocent it might be. If they see pictures of children, real or in art, their first thoughts are sexual. Then they complain, even though the only sexual stuff is within their own thoughts. They might as well have said, "why are you drawing art that makes me horny", when that isn't even your intent, just because they see a kid. Their own minds make inappropriate connections.
My advice to you, is don't let them get you down. Or change the way you do things. When it comes to artwork, your page, etc. Don't give them anything to feed off of. Don't be like how I was. That's how I got myself into the mess I did. Trust me, I'm not going to do that now anymore. I don't know what I was thinking